{"id":1412,"date":"2020-10-09T12:16:40","date_gmt":"2020-10-09T10:16:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/?p=1412"},"modified":"2020-10-11T12:32:50","modified_gmt":"2020-10-11T10:32:50","slug":"finland-switzerland-considering-f-35s-and-super-hornets-in-upcoming-fighter-contests","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/finland-switzerland-considering-f-35s-and-super-hornets-in-upcoming-fighter-contests\/","title":{"rendered":"Finland, Switzerland Considering F-35s and Super Hornets in Upcoming Fighter Contests"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Finland, Switzerland Considering F-35s and Super Hornets in Upcoming Fighter Contests<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/news.usni.org\/2020\/10\/09\/finland-switzerland-considering-f-35s-and-super-hornets-in-upcoming-fighter-contests\">Mallory Shelbourne, US Naval Institute, October 9, 2020<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Comment Roger Harr: \u201eNotably, the prospective F-35 sale to Finland includes the Operational Data Integrated Network (ODIN), while the potential Swiss sale includes the Autonomic Logistics Information System (ALIS).\u201c<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Old ALIS for Switzerland, new ODIN f\u00fcr Finnland? What is the reason for this? Our requirements regarding &#8222;independence&#8220;? Various <a href=\"https:\/\/www.strategypage.com\/htmw\/htwin\/articles\/20190220.aspx\">sources say that ALIS simply does not work<\/a>!<\/em><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1413\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1413\" style=\"width: 2560px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/finland-switzerland-considering-f-35s-and-super-hornets-in-upcoming-fighter-contests\/6191446_ergebnis\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1413\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1413\" src=\"https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/10\/6191446_ergebnis-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1784\" srcset=\"https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/10\/6191446_ergebnis-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/10\/6191446_ergebnis-300x209.jpg 300w, https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/10\/6191446_ergebnis-1024x714.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/10\/6191446_ergebnis-768x535.jpg 768w, https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/10\/6191446_ergebnis-1536x1071.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/10\/6191446_ergebnis-2048x1428.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1413\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">U.S. Air Force Captain Kristin \u201cBEO\u201d Wolfe, F-35A Lightning II Demonstration Team Commander, flies during a demonstration practice near Hill Air Force Base, Utah, April 20, 2020. The F-35A demo team has been regularly practicing at home station in order to stay performance ready for the resumption of the air show seasons. U.S. Air Force Photo<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Two non-NATO European countries are considering the purchase of American fighters, as part of two separate international competitions are underway.<\/p>\n<p>The U.S. State Department has authorized the potential sales of the F-35A Joint Strike Fighter Lightning II and the F\/A-18 E\/F Super Hornet to both Finland and Switzerland.<\/p>\n<p>On Friday, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency announced the department had authorized the two prospective sales to Finland and that DSCA informed lawmakers about the potential foreign military sales.<\/p>\n<p>The total projected cost of the F-35 sale to Finland \u2014 which would include 64 jets, 66 F-135 engines, spare parts and equipment like air-to-ground guided weapons and air-to-air missiles \u2014 is $12.5 billion, according to a DSCA news release.<\/p>\n<p>Notably, the prospective F-35 sale to Finland includes the Operational Data Integrated Network (ODIN), while the potential Swiss sale includes the Autonomic Logistics Information System (ALIS). The Pentagon earlier this year said it would move to the ODIN system after ongoing issues with ALIS plagued the F-35 program.<\/p>\n<p>In the other potential sale, Finland would seek 14 EA-18G Growlers, eight F\/A-18F Super Hornets, 50 F\/A-18E Super Hornets and 166 F414-GE-400 engines, a DSCA release said. The Super Hornet and Growler sale, should it go through, is projected to be $14.7 million, including the jets, equipment and other weapons like the Small Diameter Bomb II.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe proposed sale of F\/A-18E\/Fs and EA-18Gs and associated weapons will provide Finland with a credible defense capability to deter aggression in the region and ensure interoperability with U.S. Forces,\u201d the DSCA release reads. \u201cThe proposed sale will replace Finland\u2019s retiring F\/A-18C\/Ds and enhance its air-to-air and air-to-ground self-defense capability. Finland will have no difficulty absorbing these aircraft into its armed forces.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The two American fighters are among several programs in an international competition that includes Airbus\u2019 Eurofighter, the Saab-built JAS 39 Gripen and the French Dassault Rafale, according to a Reuters report.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1414\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1414\" style=\"width: 2560px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/finland-switzerland-considering-f-35s-and-super-hornets-in-upcoming-fighter-contests\/200711-n-ml137-1056-1\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1414\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1414\" src=\"https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/10\/200711-N-ML137-1056-1-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1676\" srcset=\"https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/10\/200711-N-ML137-1056-1-scaled.jpeg 2560w, https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/10\/200711-N-ML137-1056-1-300x196.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/10\/200711-N-ML137-1056-1-1024x670.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/10\/200711-N-ML137-1056-1-768x503.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/10\/200711-N-ML137-1056-1-1536x1005.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/10\/200711-N-ML137-1056-1-2048x1341.jpeg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1414\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">200711-N-ML137-1056<br \/>INDIAN OCEAN (July 11, 2020) An F\/A-18F Super Hornet attached to the \u2018Diamondbacks\u2019 of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 102 launches from the flight deck of the Navy\u2019s only forward-deployed aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76). July 11, 2020. US Navy Photo<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The Friday announcement about the potential sales to Finland comes after the State Department late last month also sanctioned two potential fighter jet sales to Switzerland. Neither Switzerland nor Finland are NATO partners, and both nations are trying to replace older fighter fleets.<\/p>\n<p>Switzerland would seek 36 F\/A-18E Super Hornets and four F\/A-18F Super Hornets in a potential sale that includes the fighters, engines and weapons for approximately $7.5 billion, according to DSCA. The Swiss F-35 deal \u2013 valued at approximately $6.58 billion \u2013 would include 40 jets, 46 F-135 engines and accompanying weapons.<\/p>\n<p>Airbus\u2019 Eurofighter and the French Dassault Rafale are also in contention in the Swiss competition, Reuters recently reported.<\/p>\n<p>If the F\/A-18 E\/F emerges as the winner for either Switzerland or Finland, it would help manufacturer Boeing continue the Super Hornet production line. While the U.S. Navy in its most recent budget submission sought to end its Super Hornet purchases in Fiscal Year 2021, Boeing has pointed to the ongoing international competitions as a way the company could maintain the production line.<\/p>\n<p>In addition to Switzerland and Finland, Canada, India and Germany also have competitions in which Boeing\u2019s Super Hornet is a candidate.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019re likewise very optimistic. Partly because of the significant investment in the Block III evolution, there is a lot of interest in the F-18 and obviously the Growler,\u201d Boeing vice president of international sales for strike Thom Breckenridge told USNI News earlier this year. \u201cThe five big competitions that I mentioned represent an opportunity for quantities over 400 aircraft, which is obviously very sizeable \u2013 and those, again, are just the public competitions that are underway. So we feel very optimistic also on the international front in terms of the Super Hornet\u2019s ability to win sales and contribute to the production.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Lockheed\u2019s F-35 is also seeing international interest. Reuters this week reported that Qatar officially appealed to the U.S. to purchase the F-35. Meanwhile, the Trump administration is also assessing the possibility of selling the F-35 to the United Arab Emirates.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Finland, Switzerland Considering F-35s and Super Hornets in Upcoming Fighter Contests Mallory Shelbourne, US Naval Institute, October 9, 2020 Comment Roger Harr: \u201eNotably, the prospective F-35 sale to Finland includes the Operational Data Integrated Network (ODIN), while the potential Swiss<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":1413,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1412","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-allgemein"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1412","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1412"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1412\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1418,"href":"https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1412\/revisions\/1418"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1413"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1412"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1412"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/luftverteidigung.ch\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1412"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}